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Thread: Y&T ownership

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    Dave, I don't know much about the music biz, or how the legalities of being in a band work, so my question is this; Who "owns" Y&T and the rights to the music, name, etc.? Or as a general question, do the original members of a band own it equally, and have to buy a member out if he leaves or is booted? Just wondering if you could shed some light on the subject for me. My curiosity stems from the situations when Leonard and Joey left the band and were replaced, and how all that stuff works, and the implications of it all as it seems Leonard has "rejoined" Y&T, and how personnel changes effect a band from a legal standpoint. Peace.
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    So theoreticly, Dave could go out, find three other guys and call it Y&T? What about song rights from songs each indivdual member wrote or collaberated on? Peace.
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    Yep, he's right on the money! Thats what's happening to "RATT"(shit), right now, yes, I have a couple of CD's by them, they're OK, but the difference between their "studio", and their "live" sound, is 180 degrees different, Live being the worse of the two, but thats the way it works, 2 many people behind the scene, then "involved" in the scene, it'll only get worse unfortunately..(Hence everyone creating their own studio/label, too many hands in the "cookie jar", etc., ..-Garth-

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    RATT - hey, there's another one.

    The band fired Steven Pearcy, so he went out on the road and billed himself as "Ratt" while the rest of the band was also. He doesn't won the name. I think its Warren or Juan who does.

    So, not only did Stephen get a "Cease & Desist" from the courts, but he got audited & his fine was ALL the PROFITS he made under the "assumed name".

    So now, he's on tour playing as: "Steven Pearcy, former singer from RATT."
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Garth Simpson4:
    Yep, he's right on the money! Thats what's happening to "RATT"(shit), right now, yes, I have a couple of CD's by them, they're OK, but the difference between their "studio", and their "live" sound, is 180 degrees different, Live being the worse of the two, but thats the way it works, 2 many people behind the scene, then "involved" in the scene, it'll only get worse unfortunately..(Hence everyone creating their own studio/label, too many hands in the "cookie jar", etc., ..-Garth-<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    What are you talking about? You need to get more sleep.

    Ratt sucked live because of Steven Pearcy. He was passable on record because of studio trickery. He is gone now. The current version of the band, featuring Jizzy Pearl, is AMAZING live. Not that the "old" version of Ratt had any lock on being a good band on record but sucky live . . . .
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    Okay, now we are comparing a band's performance: Studio vs. Live.

    Everyone knows that Live performances can easily be altered by the quality of the party going on backstage. Also, the lack of overdubbing, and processing alters a live performance.The end of a long tour means people are getting tired, cranky & sore throats = bad show.

    To accurately compare , just look at Guns & Roses. "Appitite" sounds great. But ever seen the original lineup with Duff, Izzy,Slash & Axl ?
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    I thought this was about Ownership, though.
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    I would have to ask my manager about that. We used to be incorporated in the 80's & there have been partnerships in other areas, but I'm not sure who actually owns the name.
    It's really not an issue at the moment, since we're all aware that without certain members, Y&T isn't Y&T. No one has any aspirations to do spinoff bands, just do gigs together. No bad blood between any of us.

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    To JF, I was talking about the "OLD RATT", who listens to them since,uh, 1986/87??, From the concerts I WORKED AT, the problem was mixing, a good singer can sound good anywhere, "sound reinforcement" can use "trickery" the same way, just in a different way/manner.I didn't hear any problem w/ his voice in the 80's, their "house mixer" was just DEAF....-G-.(I did load out for them and their tour manager said: "we get that complaint often", but the guys under contract, and we can't fire him until he stops performing his duties". Thats a quote"..-Garth-

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    Just so long as Joey Kadura doesn't own the name "Y&T".
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    "It's really not an issue at the moment, since we're all aware that without certain members, Y&T isn't Y&T. " Very diplomatic. Dave has a place waiting at the U.N. Lon
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